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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:21 pm
by Saturn
I can't buy stuff online though - I don't have any credit cards.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:28 pm
by dks
Saturn wrote:I can't buy stuff online though - I don't have any credit cards.


I'll sping for it and ship it to you. Do you mind if it's a used copy? They are less expensive...no one should be without Bate's bio...

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:46 pm
by Saturn
Honestly, don't worry about it - I'll find it one day - it isn't urgent or anything :roll:

Thanks for the very generous offer though :D

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:48 pm
by dks
Saturn wrote:Honestly, don't worry about it - I'll find it one day - it isn't urgent or anything :roll:

Thanks for the very generous offer though :D


:roll: It's no big deal. I'm ordering one for myself is all--and they are $10 a piece for a used copy...let me know if you change your mind.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:40 pm
by Credo Buffa
I haven't read the Bate bio either. For those of you that have, how does it compare to the Ward?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:42 pm
by Saturn
Credo Buffa wrote:I haven't read the Bate bio either. For those of you that have, how does it compare to the Ward?


Haven't read Ward either - in fact I've never even seen it :oops:

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:44 pm
by Credo Buffa
:o That's tragic, Saturn!

Well, we definitely need to get you a copy of that then.

Operation Find Out-of-Print Keats Biographies for Saturn, commence! :D

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:57 pm
by Malia
Credo Buffa wrote:I haven't read the Bate bio either. For those of you that have, how does it compare to the Ward?


I'd say that the Bate focuses more on Keats as a literary figure--and understanding his poetry through pure poetical analysis (including breaking poems down and studying rhyme and meter, etc.)--at least that's how I remember it. It's been a while since I cracked open my Bate.

Ward focuses on Keats through a more psychological perspective--even going so far as to make connections between Moneta in Fall of Hyperion and Keats's own mother. (A connection which I love, btw :) )

Ward also focuses more on the development of Keats's identity (both poetical and personal)--hence the title of her book: "John Keats: the *making* of a Poet".

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:43 am
by dks
Credo Buffa wrote::o That's tragic, Saturn!

Well, we definitely need to get you a copy of that then.

Operation Find Out-of-Print Keats Biographies for Saturn, commence! :D


Both Bate and Ward do incredible justice to our beloved Keats...I can order them in 5 minutes...but saturn says no... :?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:07 am
by Credo Buffa
Is there any particular place you can recommend for ordering out-of-print books?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:15 pm
by Malia
Credo Buffa wrote:Is there any particular place you can recommend for ordering out-of-print books?


For on-line ordering, I like using ABEbooks.com.
Amazon.com is also a great place to order out-of-print books from independent sellers. I've had great experiences with both operations.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:13 am
by Fortuna
Ever since you mentioned Aileen Ward to me Malia, I have been on the prowl for her biography of Keats. Unfortunately, shipping costs to Australia from Amazon is quite scary and it's really quite daunting without being able to see the condition of the book for myself. I actually walked into a Dymocks recently and asked if they carried any biographies of Keats and the sales assistant actually scoffed at me! "What?! The poet?! Pfft, no! :roll: "

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:25 am
by Credo Buffa
Poor, clueless people :roll:

I'd shop around for it, Fortuna. I'm sure you can get it from some online used bookseller in Australia. It'd definitely be worth the trouble!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:10 am
by dks
Alright people...it's a grave injustice to do without Ward or Bate--whomever needs either, I'll be glad to order it (Amazon) and ship it to you for gratis. :wink:

byron

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:23 am
by jwash
byron thought that keats's poetry was pornography; in keats's day, he and shelley were associated with leigh hunt and what was called the Cockney school, cockney as in petty low commoners.