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Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:28 am
by Malia
Thanks for the photos and especially the fabulous detail, Cybele! Looking at the Christ in the picture, I'm reminded of one of the Keats bios (am not sure *which* bio) which stated that it seemed that the Christ looked a little too much like Haydon, himself. I can kind of see the resemblance--and I wouldn't put it past him! :wink:

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:11 pm
by Raphael
Thanks Cybele- John looks like he is doing his bassoon there :lol:

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:31 pm
by Ennis
Thanks, Cybele!!
Malia, I also read -- somewhere! -- that Haydon modeled Christ after himself - thought it might have been Gittings' biography, but I just checked and could find no reference to that. But, I do agree with you that it would be just like Haydon to do such a thing! Christ does (sort of) resemble BRH in above pic!. Only good things about BRH are Keats's life mask, The Immortal Dinner, and the men he introduced to Keats. I'm not too sure about my feelings for BRH. . .

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:21 pm
by Raphael
also read -- somewhere! -- that Haydon modeled Christ after himself



It's true! In every painting he has done of Jesus , Jesus looks like Benjamin Haydon! One of his paintings is in my city gallery and you can see Haydon as Jesus very well. :lol:

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:13 am
by Cybele
Wow, Raphael -- Haydon did more than one "portrait" of Jesus?
Can we see those paintings on line?

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:32 am
by Raphael
Haydon's paintings as far as I know were all Jesus ones! Here's the one in The Walker:

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/pict ... e=2&id=251

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:48 am
by Malia
That's an interesting story about Haydon's use of several pairs glasses at one time in order to see better. Amazing he even had the chutzpa to attempt those huge paintings--let alone any paintings--with such limited eyesight. I also thought the description of Christ's left arm being too long was interesting. Thinking about it, yes it does look as if his arm would drag on the ground were he standing upright!

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:47 pm
by Raphael
Yes- one has to admire his determination to paint with such poor eyesight. John mentioned in his letters a few times about poor Benjamin's eyes- saying they were giving him trouble- it looks like he got pain at times- maybe with straining to see.
The painting is huge by the way- it is hung on the staircase.

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:07 am
by Cybele
Haydon seems to have had trouble with foreshortening. Jesus' arm in "Christ's Entry" is rendered somewhat awkwardly, too. Otherwise, he's a very competent draftsman.

"Christ's Entry" is also a huge piece -- it takes up a whole wall in a generously-sized atrium. Huge paintings were in vogue in that era -- the Blockbuster Movies of their day. For example, Benjamin West's paintings were mostly what my late cousin, an art historian, called "Great big machines."

Raphael, do you know if Haydon had a student or apprentice that helped him with the "less important" parts of a painting? I believe this practice was common during the Renaissance.

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:20 pm
by Raphael
Cybele wrote:Raphael, do you know if Haydon had a student or apprentice that helped him with the "less important" parts of a painting? I believe this practice was common during the Renaissance.



Yes he did- John mentions him in his letters.But whether he was helping paint or learning from B Haydon it isn't clear.

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:35 pm
by Cybele
Raphael wrote:
Cybele wrote:Raphael, do you know if Haydon had a student or apprentice that helped him with the "less important" parts of a painting? I believe this practice was common during the Renaissance.



Yes he did- John mentions him in his letters.But whether he was helping paint or learning from B Haydon it isn't clear.


Was this Crips, then?

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:41 pm
by Raphael
Yes- Charles Cripps- the Grant Scott notes says that he may have been a pupil of B Haydon but that the man isn't mentioned in the diaries.

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:41 pm
by Cybele
A Really Random Keats Sighting:

This is a photo of the Eve of St Agnes window, by my friend Brad, in Pierce Hall at Kenyon College in Gambier, Ohio.

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This is one of several windows celebrating great works of literature.

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:58 pm
by Raphael
That's a lovely window Cybele- be sure to tell Brad I admire it!

Re: Random Keats Sightings

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:09 pm
by Malia
I came across Keats in a completely random way while watching a Netflix movie this weekend. The main character's middle name is Keats. The character is from a rich family but is kind of "slumming it" in the movie and his girlfriend, when she learns what his middle name is after reading his driver's license, thinks it is hillarious because having a name like "Keats" sounds almost ridiculously pretentious.