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Quote Competition

Postby darthoutis » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:23 am

I'm inventing a new game out of my boredom of studying for finals. It might be kind of hard, so I'm not expecting it to lift off the ground...

The goal of this game is to trump the previous poster's quote with another relevant quote from any literary source. Usually, this "trump" will involve some sort of a quip or witticism. Feel free to research for relevant quotes, too, if you need to.

EXAMPLE:

"Chance is always powerful...where you least expect it, there will be a fish." (Ovid)

The sum of things there is no power can change,
For naught exists outside [Nature/Necessity], to which can flee
Out of the world matter of any kind
(Lucretius, On the Nature of Things)

"Necessitie and Chance do not touch me,/ What I will is Fate." (God the Father, Paradise Lost)

Now for the game to begin... (I'll let someone else start)
What though the field be lost?
All is not lost; the unconquerable Will,
And study of revenge, immortal hate,
And courage never to submit or yield:
And what is else not to be overcome?
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Re: Quote Competition

Postby Malia » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:35 am

darthoutis wrote:I'm inventing a new game out of my boredom of studying for finals. It might be kind of hard, so I'm not expecting it to lift off the ground...

The goal of this game is to trump the previous poster's quote with another relevant quote from any literary source. Usually, this "trump" will involve some sort of a quip or witticism. Feel free to research for relevant quotes, too, if you need to.

EXAMPLE:

"Chance is always powerful...where you least expect it, there will be a fish." (Ovid)

The sum of things there is no power can change,
For naught exists outside [Nature/Necessity], to which can flee
Out of the world matter of any kind
(Lucretius, On the Nature of Things)

"Necessitie and Chance do not touch me,/ What I will is Fate." (God the Father, Paradise Lost)

Now for the game to begin... (I'll let someone else start)


Questions: Is each person meant to top him or herself as you did? Or is one person to list the first quote and then others subsequently top it with another one? How many "topping" quotes do we list before we move on to the next subject?
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Postby darthoutis » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:38 am

No, you should top another person, not yourself (unless you really want to top yourself; I'm not going to stop you).

And I'd imagine the quote topic would terminate when everyone's out of trumps and demands a new topic.
What though the field be lost?
All is not lost; the unconquerable Will,
And study of revenge, immortal hate,
And courage never to submit or yield:
And what is else not to be overcome?
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Postby Saturn » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:47 am

So who's going to start?
"Oh what a misery it is to have an intellect in splints".
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Postby Credo Buffa » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:40 pm

"Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination."

~Oscar Wilde
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Postby Saturn » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:46 pm

Okay here goes:

“I am certain of nothing but of the holiness of the Heart’s affections and the truth of Imagination—What the imagination seizes as Beauty must be truth—whether it existed before or not—for I have the same Idea of all our Passions as of Love they are all in their sublime, creative of essential Beauty…

-Keats :wink:
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Postby Credo Buffa » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:28 pm

"Truth is beautiful, without doubt; but so are lies."

~Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Postby Saturn » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:39 pm

“Truth is within the reach of the wise man.
Beauty can be discerned by a sensitive heart.
They belong to one another”,
-Schiller, ‘Don Carlos’
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Postby darthoutis » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:13 pm

I was going to use the last lines of "a Greican Urn" but I'll try something a little different:

"Turn your back and keep your eyes shut,
for if the Gorgon head appears and should you see it,
all chance for your return above is lost."

(Virgil to Dante in Inferno, IX)

If you don't get the relevance right away, remember the irony that Virgil, the embodiment of pure human reason or <i>human wisdom</i>, is admonishing Dante to "keep his eyes shut."
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And study of revenge, immortal hate,
And courage never to submit or yield:
And what is else not to be overcome?
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Postby Saturn » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:46 pm

One question darthoutis.

How are we to assess or quantify whether someone's quote has topped the previous one?
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Postby darthoutis » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:00 pm

Saturn wrote:How are we to assess or quantify whether someone's quote has topped the previous one?


Ehh. Well, I would say to dispute it with the arbitrator (me) if you have any doubt, except that I have a conflict of interest in this case, since my quote is presumably the questionable one.

I guess we'll have to settle with a duel to the death! Your move! :o

...Or we can just debate the integrity of the quote and let everyone else decide. :)
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Postby Saturn » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:04 pm

What exactly is the criteria for a quote to be 'better', than another one?
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Postby darthoutis » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:23 pm

Um, well, I'd say that since this competition consists of quipping with quotes, the "upper quote" needs to:

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1) Relate to its predecessor (so it should stay on topic)
AND
2) Refute the message of its predecessor (that is contradict it)
OR express the message of its predecessor in a better, more articulate way.
AND
3) If the quote is a refutation, it should advance the thread or discourse of quotes in some sort of way, so that the quote doesn't merely repeat the conclusion of a previous one. Otherwise, we'd be moving in circles.

Of course, each quote is only going to amount to a mere assertion. Any qualm of a quote being unsubstantiated, then, can't apply against its integrity, since it's just an aphorism. So if you want to dispute the truth of a quote, then you should refute it with another.

The hope, I would think, is that the accumulation of these assertive quotes will develop into a unified discourse that might discover some sort of truth (I can't believe I just said that).

I'm not sure if that clarified anything.

What exactly is your dispute, if you have one?
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All is not lost; the unconquerable Will,
And study of revenge, immortal hate,
And courage never to submit or yield:
And what is else not to be overcome?
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Postby Saturn » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:26 pm

No that's cleared things up.

Now I understand what you are aiming for in this.
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Hmm...let's see if I understand this concept...

Postby the_other_evil_twin » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:23 am

8) I think I get this, so here goes a response to the last quote regarding Virgil and Dante...if this is completely off base or is defeating the purpose, going in circles, etc, let me know. :lol:

You said it is ironic that the icon for human wisdom says 'shut your eyes'
well, here's my quote

“I shut my eyes in order to see.”
-Paul Gauguin
.....maybe Dante AND Virgil should shut their eyes, eh?
:)~Keats, huh?~:)
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