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Postby dks » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:51 pm

I need to read that fellow...so much required summer class reading--which I'm enjoying anyway...

I've a big list of books I need/want to read... :shock:
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Postby Saturn » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:36 pm

dks wrote:
I've a big list of books I need/want to read... :shock:


Who doesn't? :lol:

Life is way to short...
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Postby Saturn » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:09 pm

“..Right and Wrong are confused here, there’s so much war in the world,
Evil has so many faces…

…The wicked War-god runs amok through all the world.
So, when racing chariots have rushed from the starting-gate,
They gather speed on the course, and the driver tugs at the curb-rein
-His horses runaway, car out of control, quite helpless.”
~Vergil, Georgics, Bk. I, 505-6, 511-14.
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Postby Saturn » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:44 pm

“I bear at the bottom of my heart a fathomless well of bitter waters, the workings of which my philosophy is ever at work to repress…”
-From Mary Shelley’s Journal 5th October 1822.

I've always had a strange affinity with Mary Shelley.

Frankenstein speaks to me in a way which it is impossible to adequately describe.
Her other great novel The Last Man, though in many respects inferior and at times absurd, is well worth reading for its enormous influence on science-fiction authors of the 20th century.
Also from a Shelley-Byron lover's perspective it is interesting to see their personas re-imagined as characters in the novel.
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Postby Saturn » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:42 pm

“The earth’s a prison, one can’t get away
From it, whatever clothes one wears.
I’m still too young to lack desires,
Not young enough now for mere play.
What satisfaction can life hold?
Do without, do without! That old
Command pursues us down the years
Endlessly echoing in our ears,
The same old hoarse repeated song
Heard hour by hour our whole life long!
With each new dawn I wake aghast
My eyes with bitter tears are filled
To think that when this day has passed
I’ll not have had one single wish fulfilled,
That even my presentiments of joy
Will die of nagging scruples, and life’s mess
Of trivial impediments destroy
My active soul’s creativeness.
When the night falls, I seek my bed
With anxious fears, with many a sigh,
But find no peace: with sights of dread
Wild dreams torment me as I lie.

Thus by existence tortured and oppressed
I crave for death, I long for rest.”
~Goethe - Faust Part One - Faust’s Study II, 1544-65, 1570-1.
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Postby dks » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:18 am

"Out of the corner of his eye Gatsby saw that the blocks of the sidewalks really formed a ladder and mounted to a secret place above the trees--he could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder."

F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby


Can't you hear the sweet, lingering influence of Keats all over this brilliant novelist's prose?? :shock:
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Postby dks » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:20 am

Great excerpt from Goethe's Faust, Saturn! :shock:
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Postby Saturn » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:28 pm

dks wrote:Great excerpt from Goethe's Faust, Saturn! :shock:


There's more where that came from - watch this space.

It's a work that really resonates with me, particularly that passage I quoted - I know those thoughts every day.
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Postby dks » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:59 am

Yes, those "nagging scruples"--but I think one just has to free onself from them...you know, use those wings...we all have them--so few of us use them. :(
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Postby Saturn » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:07 pm

“There is something to me very softening in the presence of a woman, some strange influence, even if one is not in love with them…”
- Byron, Journal, Sun. Feb. 27th 1814.

Very true, in life and especially on this site.

It used to a boys club; now I'm virtually the only man on here and I'm not much of a "man's man" :lol:
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Postby greymouse » Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:21 pm

Saturn wrote:It used to a boys club; now I'm virtually the only man on here and I'm not much of a "man's man"


I'm a new dude, but I'm afraid I won't be much help since I am so quiet and shy. Even in real life, I barely ever talk. And I am not a man's man either. Seriously, is any Keats fan going to be an alpha male? :lol:
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Postby Saturn » Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:29 pm

greymouse wrote:
Saturn wrote:It used to a boys club; now I'm virtually the only man on here and I'm not much of a "man's man"


I'm a new dude, but I'm afraid I won't be much help since I am so quiet and shy. Even in real life, I barely ever talk. And I am not a man's man either. Seriously, is any Keats fan going to be an alpha male? :lol:


Hey man I'm very shy myself but on here you can type what you really mean and not have to worry about what people say.

I find ordinary conversations very difficult unless its people I know really well.

Don't be afraid we're all really nice on here :D
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Postby dks » Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:45 pm

This is no forum.

This is a family.

The love abounds...

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Postby dks » Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:46 pm

Saturn wrote:“There is something to me very softening in the presence of a woman, some strange influence, even if one is not in love with them…”
- Byron, Journal, Sun. Feb. 27th 1814.

Very true, in life and especially on this site.

It used to a boys club; now I'm virtually the only man on here and I'm not much of a "man's man" :lol:


Aw, Saturn. You say the right things at the right time. Or, rather, you quote the right things at the right time! :wink:
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Postby Saturn » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:22 pm

:oops:

You mean I say the most embarassing things at the most inopportune moments :roll:
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