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Postby dks » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:37 am

AhDistinctly wrote:For anyone with an upcoming birthday...

Still cruel and still endowed with power to be so,
Gifted as you are with the gifts of Venus,
That moment is coming, when, suddenly, in the glass,
You see beginning the little signs of change,
Downy foreshadowing of the beard to come,
The locks that curl and wanton to the shoulders
All of a sudden looking a little different,
The cream-and-rose complexion beyond the beauty
Of freshest rose now not quite exactly
The way it had been just yesterday morning.
Then you will say, Alas for what I was
When I was younger than I am, Alas
That then I did not know what I know now;
Alas, that now I know what I did not know.
Horace, To Ligurinus


Yikes, AD. I have one coming--in December--I thought I was still relatively young, until I read that. :shock:
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Postby AhDistinctly » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:46 am

dks wrote:Yikes, AD. I have one coming--in December--I thought I was still relatively young, until I read that. :shock:

I have a December birthday, too. :D

Perhaps I should have titled this *For the Youngsters on this Forum who are Lamenting Upcoming Birthdays.* :roll:

We are hearing all the time about how society now worships the Cult of Youth. It appears that this has been a theme that has been around for a LONG time. Sadly, you're never too young to feel old. But, fortunately, you're only as old as you feel! :wink:
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Postby Saturn » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:09 pm

AhDistinctly wrote: But, fortunately, you're only as old as you feel! :wink:


Well I "feel" about 103 :(
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Postby Saturn » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:28 pm

“Show me a man who longs to live a day beyond his time
who turns his back on a decent length of life,
I’ll show the world a man who clings to folly.
For the long, looming days lay up a thousand things
closer to pain than pleasure, and the pleasures disappear,
you look and know not where
when a man’s outlived his limit, plunged in age
and the good comrade comes who comes at last to all,
not with a wedding-song, no lyre, no singers dancing—
the doom of the Deathgod comes like lightning
always at the last.

Not to be born is best
when all is reckoned in, but once a man has seen the light
the next best thing, by far, is to go back
back where he came from, quickly as he can.
For once his youth slips by, light on the wing
lightheaded…what mortal blows can he escape
what griefs wont stalk his days?
Envy and enemies, rage and battles, bloodshed
and last of all despised old age overtakes him,
stripped of power, companions, stripped of love—
the worst this life of pain can offer,
old age our mate at last.”
Sophocles - Oedipus at Colonus.
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Postby Saturn » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:42 pm

“Nature, we lament because such beauty ends
so quickly. Once we have seen your gifts
they are immediately taken away.
For only one day does the rose live;
the shortness of youth and length of age are one.
The bloom whose birth the morning star saw
is the withered bloom found in the evening.
But even sudden death can be good.
Though the rose must die she survives her death and
lengthens life by springing up again.
Young ladies, gather rosebuds while both the rose
and you are young, for life too soon ends.”
Anonymous Latin poet - De rosis nascentibus, 39-50.
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Postby Saturn » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:27 pm

"I'm gonna do with what you think
If you ever think at all
Bi-polar opposites attract
All of a sudden my water broke

I love you for what I am not
I do not want what I have got
A blanket acne'ed with ciggarette burns
Second-rate third degree burns

What is wrong with me (x2)
What do I think of me ?

Hate, hate your enemies
Save, save your friends
Find, find your place
Speak, speak the truth"

Kurt Cobain, Radio friendly Unit Shifter
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Postby Malia » Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:09 am

"The Master sees things as they are, without trying to control them. She lets them go their own way, and resides at the center of the circle."
--Lao-Tzu, Tao-te-Ching
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Postby Saturn » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:55 pm

“Some people, when they do someone a favor, are always looking for a chance to call it in. And some aren’t, but they’re still aware of it—still regard it as a debt. But others don’t even do that. They’re like a vine that produces grapes without looking for anything in return.”
Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, 5.6.
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Postby Saturn » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:07 pm

“Hence loated Melancholy,
Of Cerberus, and blackest Midnight born,
In Stygian cave forlorn
’Mongst horrid shapes, and shrieks, and sights unholy,
Find out some uncouth cell,
Where brooding darkness spreads his jealous wings,
And the night-raven sings;
There under ebon shades, and low-browed rocks,
As ragged as thy locks,
In dark Cimmerian desert ever dwell.”
-Milton, L’Allegro, 1-10.
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Postby AhDistinctly » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:49 pm

Exorcise that Melancholy, Saturn!

"Haste thee, Nymph, and bring with thee
Jest, and youthful Jollity,
Quips, and Cranks, and wanton Wiles,
Nods, and Becks, and wreathed Smiles,
Such as hang on Hebe's cheek,
And love to live in dimple sleek;
Sport that wrinkled Care derides,
And Laughter holding both his sides."
-Milton, L’Allegro, 25-32.
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Postby Saturn » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:23 pm

“I had begun life with benevolent intentions, and thirsted for the moment when I should put them in practice, and make myself useful to my fellow-beings. Now all was blasted: instead of that serenity of conscience, which allowed me to look back upon the past with self-satisfaction, and from thence to gather promise of new hopes, I was seized by remorse and the sense of guilt, which hurried me away to a hell of intense tortures, such as no language can describe.
This state of mind preyed upon my health, which had entirely recovered from the first shock it had sustained. I shunned the face of man; all sound of joy or complacency was torture to men; solitude was my only consolation—deep, dark, death-like solitude.”
Vol. II, Ch. I, P 69.

“Everywhere I see bliss, from which I alone am irrevocably excluded. I was benevolent and good; misery made me a fiend. Make me happy, and I shall again be virtuous.”

“My vices are the children of a forced solitude that I abhor; and my virtues will necessarily arise when I live in communion with an equal. I shall feel the affections of a sensitive being, and become linked to the chain of existence and events, from which I am now excluded.”
Ch IX, P 121.

“For an instant I dared to shake off my chains and look around me with a free and lofty spirit; but the iron had eaten into my flesh, and I sank again, trembling and hopeless, into my miserable self.”
Vol. III, Ch. II, Pgs. 133-4.

“‘Shall each man,’ cried he, ‘find a wife for his bosom, and each beast have his mate, and I be alone? I had feelings of affection, and they were requited by detestation and scorn.”
Ch. III, P 140.

-Mary Shelley, Frankenstein.

Who says this is a horror novel?

It's one of the most moving tragedies ever written.
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Postby Falina » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:20 am

Saturn wrote:-Mary Shelley, Frankenstein.

Who says this is a horror novel?

It's one of the most moving tragedies ever written.


Oh yes, I absolutely agree! I started reading "Frankenstein" a few weeks ago - and... I don't know how else to say that... I'm kind of deeply impressed :) ! I wasn't really sure what to expect (I always had the "Frankenstein" films in my mind :? ), but... yeah, it's a really really great, moving, impressing book :D !
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Postby Saturn » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:15 pm

Its in my top five novels ever :D
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Postby dks » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:59 pm

Yes...a masterpiece--by a woman, no less. :wink:

I will be teaching it next semester... :shock:

I'll run all of my lessons by you, Stephen--you can give me feedback, perhaps.
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Postby Falina » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:23 pm

Saturn wrote:Its in my top five novels ever :D


What are the other four books actually (if I may ask)? I need some ideas what to read after "Frankenstein" :wink: ...
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