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The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Raphael » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:01 pm

I read that :
"Andrew Motion, who also wrote a fine biography of the poet, did a very good job of imagining an ­alternative life for Keats in his The ­Invention of Dr Cake. " in the review of Posthumous Keats: A Personal Biography by Stanley Plumly


http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/fe ... las-lezard

Here is a review:


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 97399.html


Has anyone read the book?
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Credo Buffa » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:58 pm

I'd never heard of this before! Definitely one to add to the list. Thank you!
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Raphael » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:03 pm

Credo Buffa wrote:I'd never heard of this before! Definitely one to add to the list. Thank you!


I found it by random chance! My friend texted me today saying that there is a new book out on John and that it was reviewed in the Guardian- I only found the Stanly Plumy one- so that must be it ( and it made aref to this book).
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby marwood » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:07 pm

I found this book at the library a couple of days ago!
I was going to ask the forum if anyone has read it,
Bit of a coincidence! It's only a small book tucked away
amazed i found it. I am about halfway through, and enjoying it,
well worth a read. If Keats hadn't died in Rome and came back
with a new identity...
You beat me to it Raphael! :D
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Raphael » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:45 pm

I will see if my library has it then as you reccommend it!
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Credo Buffa » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:55 pm

Does anyone know of any other books in which Keats is represented as a fictional character? I've read the Dan Simmons Hyperion series in which Keats appears as a cybrid, but I'm curious if there are other writers out there who have explored his character in a setting other than biography.
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Cybele » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:32 am

Another book with a fictional John Keats?

Years back I stumbled upon "The Difference Engine."

Here's Wikipedia article about the novel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Difference_Engine

The minor character Keats appears in the steampunk work as a "clacker," i.e. a computer programmer, in an alternate London where Babbage's Difference Engine was built and succeeded by a better Analytical Engine.

And I've got to look for that new Andrew Motion book! -- Thanks for the recommendation.
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Raphael » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:39 pm

The minor character Keats appears in the steampunk work as a "clacker," i.e. a computer programmer, in an alternate London where Babbage's Difference Engine was built and succeeded by a better Analytical Engine.


How odd!
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Credo Buffa » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:00 pm

How odd indeed! Somehow Keats has become something of a popular cameo in the science fiction world!
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Raphael » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:09 pm

Credo Buffa wrote:How odd indeed! Somehow Keats has become something of a popular cameo in the science fiction world!


It doesn't work for me- he is too much of his time.
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Cybele » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:43 am

Credo Buffa wrote:How odd indeed! Somehow Keats has become something of a popular cameo in the science fiction world!


"But wait, that's not all!" as they say in infomercials.
Last night my daughter reminded me that the popular Anime/Manga/Live Action movie/and-who-knows what-else series "Sailor Moon" was greatly influenced by "Endymion." She tells me that the creator of "Sailor Moon" is/was a huge Keats fan, and that Keats is very big in Japan. (I can't imagine how difficult moving poetry from one culture to another with a very different aesthetic must be -- but that's another thread. :) )
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Credo Buffa » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:01 pm

Raphael wrote:It doesn't work for me- he is too much of his time.

I don't know. . . I have fun sometimes imagining how my favorite figures of earlier centuries would translate into the modern world had they be born in these times, and likewise with the people I know now going back and living long ago. :)

Cybele wrote:I can't imagine how difficult moving poetry from one culture to another with a very different aesthetic must be -- but that's another thread.

Absolutely! To translate poetry from one language to another is an art in and of itself.
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby BrokenLyre » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:43 pm

Boy - I take a break from the Forum (for work) and when I come back to the forum, books are being reviewed about Keats! .......
Someday soon I must read Plumly....and Dr. cake sounds interesting.

Truly amazing - that Keats would be appreciated in Japanese. What a challenge that would be.

I like your imaginative thoughts CB - I too have wondered what I would be like living 'back then' or what Keats would be like today. I also have thought about his life, if he survived Rome. I truly believe he would have returned to England to be with Fanny by July 1821. He and Fanny would have continued courting as it were, and he would have continued writing. And it makes me wonder.
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Malia » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:52 pm

I'd heard long ago that Keats was popular in Japan and I'm not at all surprised. I think Keats has a very "Yin/Yang" sensibility that "translates" well to Japanese culture.
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Re: The Invention of Dr Cake - Andrew Motionn ( JK link)

Postby Raphael » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:04 pm

BrokenLyre wrote: I also have thought about his life, if he survived Rome. I truly believe he would have returned to England to be with Fanny by July 1821. He and Fanny would have continued courting as it were, and he would have continued writing. And it makes me wonder.


I think if he had recovered:

*marriage with Fanny and living with the Brawnes in Wentworth Place

*more amazing poetry being written with eventually the accolade he deserved ( and maybe him taking on little jobs now and again such as articles and tutoring children )

*Fanny making her own money by her dressmaking

*lots of little Junkets being born
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