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One Man

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:55 pm
by Brave Archer
Is there one some that explains how you feel towards the opposite sex.

Here is mine.

A walk in the park, or late night T.V
I'm a kind of simple man
I need you to understand me
A car and a dog, an apartment uptown,
I don't have much but me,
But i'd give it all if we could be.

Girl, i'm only One Man, doing what I can,
To give you everything you need,
To be ev'rything I can be.

A job and a dream, keep me off the street,
But sometimed I wanna go,
So I can buy you fancy clothes and things.
I pray that one day, my dreams will come true,
And the first thing that I'm gonna do is promise Eternal love to you.

But, i'm only one man,

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:46 pm
by dks
I love the first stanza, BA! Very modern, yet plaintive and I can feel the pleading tone.

I think Saturn will move this to the poetry thread...but I wanted to reply anyway. :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:38 pm
by Malia
I have a question that this poem/song raised in my mind. . .do most guys think they have to be *everything* for their "woman"? I mean, is there serious pressure in men's minds to be all that a girl wants and "give (her) everything (she) needs"?

That seems like an awful lot of pressure for a man to put himself under. Personally, I think it's a huge red flag when someone supposes they can get all they need out of one person or can *be* all someone *else* needs.

All I look for in a man is someone I can laugh with and someone who challenges me (and someone I can challenge)--and by that, I mean challenging each other to grow mentally, spiritually and keep healthy physically. But I don't want or need him to be my *everything*--not by a long shot!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:18 pm
by greymouse
Cool poem Brave Archer, good to meet you. 8)

. . .do most guys think they have to be *everything* for their "woman"?


I know many guys who feel and act this way, yes. I think what a man "really" feels is totally different from guy to guy though.

All I look for in a man ...


Are you sure you didn't leave a bunch of stuff out? :P I always imagine that women want men to dance with them, and to be spontaneous and fun, and other very difficult things.

My feelings toward man-woman relations are best summed up in The Waste Land by Eliot, particularly A Game of Chess. I know, it sounds horrible to say, but I swear in every other way I'm a truly warm nice person.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:46 pm
by Saturn
dks wrote:
I think Saturn will move this to the poetry thread...but I wanted to reply anyway. :wink:


You know me too well - my OCD knows no bounds :lol:

As for this

Malia wrote:I have a question that this poem/song raised in my mind. . .do most guys think they have to be *everything* for their "woman"? I mean, is there serious pressure in men's minds to be all that a girl wants and "give (her) everything (she) needs"?


I suppose this is a bit of an old fashioned view that some men have - wanting to be Superman to Lois Lane if you will :wink:

Speaking for myself I know I have very little to give to anyone who ever wanted me.

I have a good heart, a lot of love to give, a sympathetic ear, a truthful tongue, hidden strengths and a determination to do as much good in the world for those I love as I can.

I have no money, no significant material possesions, no lust for power, wealth or influence.

I just want a quiet life with someone who could bear the sight of me for long enough to want to spend their life with me.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:58 pm
by Brave Archer
First I wanna say that that song is not me, rather, it belongs to an R&B singer by the name of Tank.


Malia wrote:I have a question that this poem/song raised in my mind. . .do most guys think they have to be *everything* for their "woman"? I mean, is there serious pressure in men's minds to be all that a girl wants and "give (her) everything (she) needs"?

That seems like an awful lot of pressure for a man to put himself under. Personally, I think it's a huge red flag when someone supposes they can get all they need out of one person or can *be* all someone *else* needs.!




Now Malia, first I wanna say that it is a lot of pressure that I feel -- can't speak for the other men here-- when first thinking of a relationship. Everything in life that i'm accomplishing in my so far short life and everything I will accomplish is done with an imaginary woman in mind. That is, I wonder will she be comfortable with me and the lifestyle i'm able to provide. Now the entire song, for me anyway, is a man saying i'm not perfect and I will give you everything I have which isn't much.

And I did sing this to someone a couple of nights ago.


![/quote] for in a man is someone I can laugh with and someone who challenges me (and someone I can challenge)--and by that, I mean challenging each other to grow mentally, spiritually and keep healthy physically. But I don't want or need him to be my *everything*--not by a long shot![/quote]

It's not about a man "being" your "everything" but to give you his all.

But, there is pressure a lot A WHOLE LOT. I don't event know if pressure is the right word, Malia, but it does seem to fit. It's just that we all know that no woman wants to date a guy who can only bring home a smile for dinner. :D


Cool poem Brave Archer, good to meet you.

Same to you greymouse.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:37 pm
by Malia
Brave Archer wrote:But, there is pressure a lot A WHOLE LOT. I don't event know if pressure is the right word, Malia, but it does seem to fit. It's just that we all know that no woman wants to date a guy who can only bring home a smile for dinner. :D

Same to you greymouse.


I'm certainly not going to speak for all women here ;) but I think that, though having money is a helpful and wonderful thing and a couple in a relationship should be able to make ends meet as best they can, I think that many women are *more* attracted to a man's confidence. His self-confidence (not self-importance, mind you, but a natural and balanced confidence). One of the biggest turn-offs I know of is when a guy feels sorry for himself or constantly says (believes) that he isn't worthwhile or can never
achieve what he wants to in life. Even if a guy doesn't achieve everything he goes after, a man who keeps a positive attitude about *trying* to achieve is a real turn *on* in my book.

I think it works both ways, too. I'd suspect that you guys out there would be totally turned off by a girl who never felt confident about herself or was, to put it another way "a downer".

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:38 pm
by Saturn
Brave Archer wrote:But, there is pressure a lot A WHOLE LOT. I don't event know if pressure is the right word, Malia, but it does seem to fit. It's just that we all know that no woman wants to date a guy who can only bring home a smile for dinner. :D



Now even I am not that hardbitten and cynical.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:25 am
by dks
Hmph. I'll raise your "smile for dinner" and up the ante with this: long as he graces me with patience to bear all of my "purple riots" and cares an inkling about poetry--I'll make the dinner for him to which he brings that smile.

:wink:

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:41 pm
by greymouse
long as he graces me with patience to bear all of my "purple riots" and cares an inkling about poetry


I just want a quiet life with someone who could bear the sight of me for long enough to want to spend their life with me.


All I look for in a man is someone I can laugh with and someone who challenges me (and someone I can challenge)


I gather Keats fans are very unpicky lovers! :shock: But you are all so attractive, intelligent, and kind. You could probably all afford to be a little more aggressive at the bargaining table. Sometimes, I think we get everything we thought we wanted in a relationship, only to find there were other things we also wanted and aren't getting. Hmmm ... :? Well anyway that's happened to me before. Here's mine:

All I want is someone who won't throw sharp objects at me, and who is somewhat clean and doesn't swear at me in public. :P I'm just being silly, I love reading your posts all.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:26 pm
by dks
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Greymouse! You are the first person to make me laugh out loud today!! Thank you for that!! I needed it! :wink: