Keatsian Criticism

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Postby Saturn » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:21 pm

I can't buy stuff online though - I don't have any credit cards.
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Postby dks » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:28 pm

Saturn wrote:I can't buy stuff online though - I don't have any credit cards.


I'll sping for it and ship it to you. Do you mind if it's a used copy? They are less expensive...no one should be without Bate's bio...
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Postby Saturn » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:46 pm

Honestly, don't worry about it - I'll find it one day - it isn't urgent or anything :roll:

Thanks for the very generous offer though :D
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Postby dks » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:48 pm

Saturn wrote:Honestly, don't worry about it - I'll find it one day - it isn't urgent or anything :roll:

Thanks for the very generous offer though :D


:roll: It's no big deal. I'm ordering one for myself is all--and they are $10 a piece for a used copy...let me know if you change your mind.
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Postby Credo Buffa » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:40 pm

I haven't read the Bate bio either. For those of you that have, how does it compare to the Ward?
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Postby Saturn » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:42 pm

Credo Buffa wrote:I haven't read the Bate bio either. For those of you that have, how does it compare to the Ward?


Haven't read Ward either - in fact I've never even seen it :oops:
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Postby Credo Buffa » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:44 pm

:o That's tragic, Saturn!

Well, we definitely need to get you a copy of that then.

Operation Find Out-of-Print Keats Biographies for Saturn, commence! :D
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Postby Malia » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:57 pm

Credo Buffa wrote:I haven't read the Bate bio either. For those of you that have, how does it compare to the Ward?


I'd say that the Bate focuses more on Keats as a literary figure--and understanding his poetry through pure poetical analysis (including breaking poems down and studying rhyme and meter, etc.)--at least that's how I remember it. It's been a while since I cracked open my Bate.

Ward focuses on Keats through a more psychological perspective--even going so far as to make connections between Moneta in Fall of Hyperion and Keats's own mother. (A connection which I love, btw :) )

Ward also focuses more on the development of Keats's identity (both poetical and personal)--hence the title of her book: "John Keats: the *making* of a Poet".
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Postby dks » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:43 am

Credo Buffa wrote::o That's tragic, Saturn!

Well, we definitely need to get you a copy of that then.

Operation Find Out-of-Print Keats Biographies for Saturn, commence! :D


Both Bate and Ward do incredible justice to our beloved Keats...I can order them in 5 minutes...but saturn says no... :?
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Postby Credo Buffa » Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:07 am

Is there any particular place you can recommend for ordering out-of-print books?
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Postby Malia » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:15 pm

Credo Buffa wrote:Is there any particular place you can recommend for ordering out-of-print books?


For on-line ordering, I like using ABEbooks.com.
Amazon.com is also a great place to order out-of-print books from independent sellers. I've had great experiences with both operations.
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Postby Fortuna » Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:13 am

Ever since you mentioned Aileen Ward to me Malia, I have been on the prowl for her biography of Keats. Unfortunately, shipping costs to Australia from Amazon is quite scary and it's really quite daunting without being able to see the condition of the book for myself. I actually walked into a Dymocks recently and asked if they carried any biographies of Keats and the sales assistant actually scoffed at me! "What?! The poet?! Pfft, no! :roll: "
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Postby Credo Buffa » Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:25 am

Poor, clueless people :roll:

I'd shop around for it, Fortuna. I'm sure you can get it from some online used bookseller in Australia. It'd definitely be worth the trouble!
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Postby dks » Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:10 am

Alright people...it's a grave injustice to do without Ward or Bate--whomever needs either, I'll be glad to order it (Amazon) and ship it to you for gratis. :wink:
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Postby jwash » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:23 am

byron thought that keats's poetry was pornography; in keats's day, he and shelley were associated with leigh hunt and what was called the Cockney school, cockney as in petty low commoners.
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